MARCH 9, 2010 - 9:00 a.m. - 12:00 noon

MINUTES

DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE

Meeting No. 7

All Members of Council

Development Services                                                                 Economic Development

Chair:              Councillor J. Webster                                                                             Chair:             

Vice-Chair:      Councillor D. Horchik                                                                            Transportation Issues

                                                                                                                                        Chair:          Regional Councillor G. Landon

 

 

PART A

Presentations, Major Studies, and Issues Agenda

9:00 a.m. – Canada Room

 

Attendance

Mayor F. Scarpitti

Deputy Mayor J. Heath

Regional Councillor J. Jones

Regional Councillor J. Virgilio

Councillor V. Burke

Councillor E. Shapero

Councillor D. Hamilton

Councillor J. Webster

Councillor D. Horchik

Councillor L. Kanapathi

 

Regrets

Regional Councillor G. Landon

Councillor C. Moretti

Councillor A. Chiu

 

J. Livey, Chief Administrative Officer

J. Baird, Commissioner of Development Services

B. Librecz, Commissioner of Community & Fire Services

A. Brown, Director of Engineering

C. Conrad, Town Solicitor

B. Karumanchery, Senior Development Manager

V. Shuttleworth, Director of Planning and Urban Design

A. Tari, Committee Clerk

 

The Development Services Committee convened at 9:00 AM in the Canada Room with Councillor J. Webster in the Chair.  

 

 

 

DISCLOSURE OF PECUNIARY INTEREST

 

None disclosed.

 

 

 

 

 

1.         DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMMITTEE MINUTES
- FEBRUARY 9, 2010, Part A (10.0)

            Minutes

 

Moved by Regional Councillor J. Jones

Seconded by Regional Councillor J. Virgilio

 

That the minutes of the Development Services Committee meeting, Part A, held February 9, 2010, be confirmed.

CARRIED

 

 

 

2.         RAPID TRANSIT/MOBILITY HUB UPDATE (5.0)

            407 Transitway  Rapid Transit  Hydro Undergrounding  Mobility Hubs

            Yonge Subway Extension

 

Mr. Alan Brown, Director of Engineering, addressed the Committee and provided some history related to the outstanding transportation issues.

 

Mr. Neal Irwin, Chairman Emeritus, IBI Group, delivered a PowerPoint presentation regarding the evolution of the Rapid Transit Plans in the Greater Toronto Area (GTA).

 

Mr. Joe Berridge, Partner, Urban Strategies, delivered a PowerPoint presentation regarding the Mobility Hubs.

 

Ms. Mary-Frances Turner, Vice-President, York Region Rapid Transit Corporation, delivered a PowerPoint presentation regarding the Yonge Subway Extension.

 

Mr. Rob Minnes, Project Manager, Ministry of Transportation of Ontario addressed the Committee and provided some opening remarks regarding the 407 Transitway.  Mr. Khaled El Delati, Project Manager, Delcan delivered a PowerPoint presentation with respect to the Environmental Study, planning and preliminary design process for the 407 Transitway. 

 

Mr. Alan Brown delivered a PowerPoint presentation regarding the findings of the retained consultant and Hydro One comments on the feasibility and costs of undergrounding the 500KV and 230KV Hydro transmission lines north of Highway 7 from Yonge Street to Bayview Avenue. 

 

Mr. Jim Baird, Commissioner of Development Services thanked all the transportation representatives for coming today and providing updates to the Development Services Committee.  He provided the Committee with an overview of the discussions that took place at the York Region office on February 18, 2010 with Regional Chair Bill Fisch, Richmond Hill Mayor Dave Barrow, Mayor Frank Scarpitti, Regional Councillor Jim Jones, John Livey, Jim Baird, Alan Brown, senior staff at the Region, representatives from MTO, VIVA , Metrolinx and the Provincial Facilitator.

 

 

The Committee suggested that the proposed station location for the 407 Transitway at Leslie Street be re-examined to ensure it is functional for the existing residential and commercial communities.  There was discussion with respect to moving it north of Highway 407 and possibly west of Leslie Street.  The Committee inquired why the average speed cannot be faster than 65 km/hr.  Mr. El Delati confirmed that the maximum speed is 100 km/hr and that the main constraint is the slowing down time at the stations.  He indicated that in order to increase the average speed you would need fewer stations along the Transitway.   The Committee also inquired why the proposed 407 Transitway is being diverted off the right-of-way at the stations.  Mr. El Delati emphasized that the 407 Transitway is being designed with the platforms as close as possible (within 100 metres) to the subway stations and other transit providers and the highest density land uses.

 

The Committee inquired about the estimated operational date for the Yonge Subway extension if the funding is confirmed shorttly.  Ms. Turner advised if funding is available immediately it would be expected to be operational in 2018.   There was discussion regarding the required parking spots for commuters coming to the Yonge Subway station at the Langstaff/Richmond Hill Centre, the requirement for train storage (14 trains) and the importance of a people mover to the north end of the station. 

 

There was brief discussion regarding the potential property exchange between 407 Transitway and Markham District Energy at Birchmount Avenue.

 

The Committee discussed the cost differential between Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) and Light Rail Transit (LRT).    Mr. El Delati advised that the cost for an LRT would be approximately 40% above the BRT.  He indicated that the main rationale for the BRT is that it offers a lot of flexibility in implementation and has the ability of acquiring substantial ridership in the first phase of development.  Mr. El Delati highlighted that the 407 Transitway design allows for the future conversion to LRT.

 

There was discussion regarding alternative funding mechanisms and the importance of an immediate funding strategy to ensure the delivery of the required infrastructure.  The Committee stated concerns with meeting the Provincially mandated growth targets without the Federal and Provincial commitment to deliver the required infrastructure to support the growth forecasts.

 

The Committee discussed the bus movement that will connect the Langstaff area east and west of the tracks to the main terminal.

 

There was brief discussion regarding the potential surplus lands once the alignment for the 407 Transitway is finalized.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Committee thanked all the transit representatives for presenting an update to the Development Services Committee.  The Committee stated some concerns with the Town of Markham not having the appropriate expert technical representation during the decision process for the Richmond Hill/Langstaff Centre.  The Committee stated disappointment with the imbalance of funding provided to the City of Toronto versus the funding for the entire 905 area.  The Committee suggested that a comparative chart for the City of Toronto and the entire 905 area that illustrates the forecasted residential and commercial growth from now to 2031 should be prepared.   

 

Regional Councillor Jim Jones believes that the issue to underground the 500KV Hydro transmission lines is not a Hydro issue but rather a political one.  He indicated that Siemens Ltd. has undergrounded Hydro transmission lines for far less than the estimated costs provided by Hydro One. Staff emphasized that the main obstacle is not the estimated cost to underground the 500KV transmission lines but rather that Hydro One was adamant that they would not permit it due to network security and risk.  The Committee discussed whether the undergrounding of the 500KV transmission lines would amend the interface of the inter-modal.  Staff pointed out that if the Hydro transmission lines were undergrounded it would free up the land for future development, but would only allow for minimal movement south on the location of the subway station.  The Toronto Transit Commission (TTC) indicated that moving the subway station further south would be problematic because of the curve.  The Committee suggested inviting Siemens Ltd. to a future Workshop.

 

Moved by Mayor F. Scarpitti

Seconded by Regional Councillor J. Jones

 

1)      That the presentations regarding Rapid Transit/Mobility Hub Update be received, including:

 

-        Neal Irwin, Chairman Emeritus, IBI Group

-        Joe Berridge, Partner, Urban Strategies Inc.

-        Mary-Frances Turner, Vice-President, York Region Rapid Transit Corporation

-        Mr. Khaled El Delati, Project Manager, Delcan

-        Rob Minnes, Project Manager, Ministry of Transportation of Ontario

-        Alan Brown, Director of Engineering, Town of Markham

-        Jim Baird, Commissioner of Development Services, Town of Markham; and,

 

2)      That staff work with the representatives of the 407 Transitway in re-examining the location of the Leslie Street station; and further,

 

3)      That Staff be authorized and directed to do all things necessary to give effect to this resolution.

 

CARRIED

 

 

 

 

 

NEW BUSINESS

 

There was no new business.

 

 

 

Moved by Regional Councillor J. Jones

Seconded by Councillor L. Kanapathi

 

That the Committee consented to introduce a new item for in-camera discussion dealing with rapid transit and mobility hub.

 

CARRIED

 

Moved by Regional Councillor J. Jones

Seconded by Councillor L. Kanapathi

 

 

That, in accordance with Section 239 (2) (c) of the Municipal Act, Development Services Committee resolve into an in-camera session to discuss the following confidential matter

(12:03 PM):

 

 

1)         Acquisition/disposition of land - Highway 7 Sanitary Sewer Project

 

CARRIED

 

 

Moved by Regional Councillor J. Jones

Seconded by Regional Councillor J. Virgilio

 

That the Committee rise from the in-camera session (12:16 PM)

CARRIED

 

 

 

ADJOURNMENT

 

The Development Services Committee meeting adjourned at 12:35 PM.

 

 

 

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